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		<title>By: Sambo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tori/Stephen

Thanks very much for your comments/advice.   I had a look at Equisync which someone mentioned above and I may give that a try.  Stephen, thank you for your offer of help.  I have tried &quot;mindfulness&quot; in the past but just found it difficult to focus and generally find it difficult to commit to any sort of meditation where I need to do the work myself, and especially now I have 2 sons plus work....  I&#039;m grateful to you both for your help.   Sambo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tori/Stephen</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your comments/advice.   I had a look at Equisync which someone mentioned above and I may give that a try.  Stephen, thank you for your offer of help.  I have tried &#8220;mindfulness&#8221; in the past but just found it difficult to focus and generally find it difficult to commit to any sort of meditation where I need to do the work myself, and especially now I have 2 sons plus work&#8230;.  I&#8217;m grateful to you both for your help.   Sambo</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 02:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used holosync up to and including Flowering Level 1, which equated to about 7 years of continuous usage and is about three quarters through the program. My subjective opinion is that it had no discernable effect on me. I did not become more awaked or more aware and I am no more relaxed now than I was prior to commencing the program. The literature that accompanies the program does state that everyones&#039; experience will be different. My experience was I had no change. There are many complimentary testimonials on the web, so maybe I was one of the few unlucky people who did not respond to the technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used holosync up to and including Flowering Level 1, which equated to about 7 years of continuous usage and is about three quarters through the program. My subjective opinion is that it had no discernable effect on me. I did not become more awaked or more aware and I am no more relaxed now than I was prior to commencing the program. The literature that accompanies the program does state that everyones&#8217; experience will be different. My experience was I had no change. There are many complimentary testimonials on the web, so maybe I was one of the few unlucky people who did not respond to the technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Warrilow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Warrilow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sambo

You might want to consider the meditation practise of Mindfulness.  I am obviously not qualified to offer you any sort of medical or therapeutic advice - but just as one &quot;fellow traveller&quot; to another,  I do recommend this. I have undertaken this practise for several years and can atttest to it&#039;s  effectiveness in terms of gaining greater insight and control into one&#039;s mental and emotional states.

I know of others who have suffered quite badly from depressive states and have used this practise to gain a good measure of equilibrium and peace in their lives.

There are many mindfulness meditation groups that meet worldwide and you will find a lot of resources on line if you just google &quot;Mindfulness&quot;.

It is also increasingly used as a therapeutic approach to certain depressive conditions - in this context  it&#039;s known as &quot;Mindfulness Cognitive Behaviour Therapy&quot;.

If you want more information  please contact me - not sure quite how we do that - but I&#039;m sure Tori can advise you how to reach me if you want to.

Very best wishes
Stephen
.-= Stephen Warrilow&#039;s last post:   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strategies-for-managing-change.com/change-management-practitioners.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Change management practitioners&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sambo</p>
<p>You might want to consider the meditation practise of Mindfulness.  I am obviously not qualified to offer you any sort of medical or therapeutic advice &#8211; but just as one &#8220;fellow traveller&#8221; to another,  I do recommend this. I have undertaken this practise for several years and can atttest to it&#8217;s  effectiveness in terms of gaining greater insight and control into one&#8217;s mental and emotional states.</p>
<p>I know of others who have suffered quite badly from depressive states and have used this practise to gain a good measure of equilibrium and peace in their lives.</p>
<p>There are many mindfulness meditation groups that meet worldwide and you will find a lot of resources on line if you just google &#8220;Mindfulness&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is also increasingly used as a therapeutic approach to certain depressive conditions &#8211; in this context  it&#8217;s known as &#8220;Mindfulness Cognitive Behaviour Therapy&#8221;.</p>
<p>If you want more information  please contact me &#8211; not sure quite how we do that &#8211; but I&#8217;m sure Tori can advise you how to reach me if you want to.</p>
<p>Very best wishes<br />
Stephen<br />
<span class="cluv"> Stephen Warrilow&#8217;s last post:   <a href="http://www.strategies-for-managing-change.com/change-management-practitioners.html" rel="nofollow">Change management practitioners</a> </span></p>
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		<title>By: Tori Deaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tori Deaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Sambo!
Thanks for the comment, and I&#039;m sorry to hear you&#039;re struggling so much.  I&#039;m sure you already know this, but I&#039;m obligated to caution a bit - while it&#039;s being hyped by a lot of companies, entrainment isn&#039;t as magical as some folks would like us to believe.  That said...  I&#039;ve personally used it as a meditation aid when my brain won&#039;t seem to hold still - and it works really well *for me*.  

  I personally use the software from TransparentCorp, that way I *know* what entrainment levels I&#039;m using ( there are affiliate linksfor them in the sidebar - MindStereo, MindWorkstation, NeuroProgrammer)  With those programs, you can combine entrainment with any guided meditation or hypnosis session you want.    I&#039;ve also used and liked a few of the mp3&#039;s from HypnoticMP3.com , which mix entrainment and hypnosis.  I&#039;m very fussy about hypnotic script content, his struck me as very well done.   

You&#039;ll find other recommendations scattered through the comment section above : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Sambo!<br />
Thanks for the comment, and I&#8217;m sorry to hear you&#8217;re struggling so much.  I&#8217;m sure you already know this, but I&#8217;m obligated to caution a bit &#8211; while it&#8217;s being hyped by a lot of companies, entrainment isn&#8217;t as magical as some folks would like us to believe.  That said&#8230;  I&#8217;ve personally used it as a meditation aid when my brain won&#8217;t seem to hold still &#8211; and it works really well *for me*.  </p>
<p>  I personally use the software from TransparentCorp, that way I *know* what entrainment levels I&#8217;m using ( there are affiliate linksfor them in the sidebar &#8211; MindStereo, MindWorkstation, NeuroProgrammer)  With those programs, you can combine entrainment with any guided meditation or hypnosis session you want.    I&#8217;ve also used and liked a few of the mp3&#8217;s from HypnoticMP3.com , which mix entrainment and hypnosis.  I&#8217;m very fussy about hypnotic script content, his struck me as very well done.   </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll find other recommendations scattered through the comment section above : )</p>
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		<title>By: Sambo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sambo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all so interesting!  I just recently heard about The Secret and when I started looking into it came across HS.  I&#039;ve been trying to break the pattern of my thinking for years, I have low self-esteem, lack confidence, suffer from bouts of depression - basically feel a slave to my thought processes!  My bookshelves are lined with self help books.  I&#039;ve tried meditation but find it very difficult to quiet my mind and focus.  So reading about HS, it sounded like the perfect solution.  I sent off for the demo CD and have been put off by BH&#039;s marketing of the product, as well as the price.  I&#039;d never even heard of entrainment before!  It&#039;s great to think that there maybe something out there that can actually help me but when I listened to the HS demo, I was a little nervous of &quot;letting go&quot; .....   Is there anyone that can recommend an alternative to HS that could help with my issues, cost less money, and that I feel is &quot;safe&quot; to use???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all so interesting!  I just recently heard about The Secret and when I started looking into it came across HS.  I&#8217;ve been trying to break the pattern of my thinking for years, I have low self-esteem, lack confidence, suffer from bouts of depression &#8211; basically feel a slave to my thought processes!  My bookshelves are lined with self help books.  I&#8217;ve tried meditation but find it very difficult to quiet my mind and focus.  So reading about HS, it sounded like the perfect solution.  I sent off for the demo CD and have been put off by BH&#8217;s marketing of the product, as well as the price.  I&#8217;d never even heard of entrainment before!  It&#8217;s great to think that there maybe something out there that can actually help me but when I listened to the HS demo, I was a little nervous of &#8220;letting go&#8221; &#8230;..   Is there anyone that can recommend an alternative to HS that could help with my issues, cost less money, and that I feel is &#8220;safe&#8221; to use???</p>
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		<title>By: Melly80</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melly80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 18:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol omg do not know how I managed to do that. Meh  musta gotten buttonhappy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol omg do not know how I managed to do that. Meh  musta gotten buttonhappy</p>
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		<title>By: Melly80</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melly80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow am I glad I googled holosync or what! :-)  This has been very informative . I went and checked out the equisync site and I gotta say I reckon I&#039;m sold on that one especially after reading their FAQ and seeing they don&#039;t try to push all three levels/sets onto their customers plus the price is a lot more friendlier too. Far out I&#039;m glad I came across this site. Thanks muchly Tori! I&#039;ve been...avoiding I guess you could call it...meditation for a really long time and had recently decided maybe I should look into a guided meditation to help me get through the resistance that I clearly have to it (its a funny thing when your aware of your own self sabotage and suppression and are the observer of it happening but yet...it still freaking happens) and then literally an ad for this &quot;meditate deeper then a zen monk&quot; (pffft totally scoffed at that straight up btw) jumped out at me one day while reading my nova magazine so &#039;s I went online and ordered the demo. It arrived today and I had a read through the report booklet to which my eyes nearly popped out of my head when it came to the pricing and how many &quot;levels&quot; there were eeek I was a bit weary bout listening to the demo thinking it mighta been a case of listen once then lose all reason haha...ANYWAYS I didn&#039;t even get around to loading it up coz I googled  it for some user feedback and voila!!! I ended up here reading some very interesting views and experiences. I&#039;m now actually feeling excited about veering into a bit of unknown territory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow am I glad I googled holosync or what! <img src='http://www.mindtweaks.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   This has been very informative . I went and checked out the equisync site and I gotta say I reckon I&#8217;m sold on that one especially after reading their FAQ and seeing they don&#8217;t try to push all three levels/sets onto their customers plus the price is a lot more friendlier too. Far out I&#8217;m glad I came across this site. Thanks muchly Tori! I&#8217;ve been&#8230;avoiding I guess you could call it&#8230;meditation for a really long time and had recently decided maybe I should look into a guided meditation to help me get through the resistance that I clearly have to it (its a funny thing when your aware of your own self sabotage and suppression and are the observer of it happening but yet&#8230;it still freaking happens) and then literally an ad for this &#8220;meditate deeper then a zen monk&#8221; (pffft totally scoffed at that straight up btw) jumped out at me one day while reading my nova magazine so &#8217;s I went online and ordered the demo. It arrived today and I had a read through the report booklet to which my eyes nearly popped out of my head when it came to the pricing and how many &#8220;levels&#8221; there were eeek I was a bit weary bout listening to the demo thinking it mighta been a case of listen once then lose all reason haha&#8230;ANYWAYS I didn&#8217;t even get around to loading it up coz I googled  it for some user feedback and voila!!! I ended up here reading some very interesting views and experiences. I&#8217;m now actually feeling excited about veering into a bit of unknown territory</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Laura

If they didn&#039;t have voice, people would likely just listen to it on loop and never buy anything.  Not defending them, but I can see why they don&#039;t want to just send out pure audio without some way of protecting it.  I do hear he is a very pushy marketer though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Laura</p>
<p>If they didn&#8217;t have voice, people would likely just listen to it on loop and never buy anything.  Not defending them, but I can see why they don&#8217;t want to just send out pure audio without some way of protecting it.  I do hear he is a very pushy marketer though.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too received the holosync demo CD.  I was immediately annoyed that it seemed to be an advertisement and also wished the talking would stop so that I could listen to the rain, chimes and bowls.  Part way through the pitch I also wondered if the CD was meant to lull you into buying the whole system.  From that point on I found it hard to relax while listening as I did feel that it was not an ethical thing for Centerpointe to be doing (if of course that was the intention).  I won&#039;t be buying this system.  I wanted to learn more about this and will continue to do my research elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too received the holosync demo CD.  I was immediately annoyed that it seemed to be an advertisement and also wished the talking would stop so that I could listen to the rain, chimes and bowls.  Part way through the pitch I also wondered if the CD was meant to lull you into buying the whole system.  From that point on I found it hard to relax while listening as I did feel that it was not an ethical thing for Centerpointe to be doing (if of course that was the intention).  I won&#8217;t be buying this system.  I wanted to learn more about this and will continue to do my research elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Tori Deaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tori Deaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 21:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin, 

I don&#039;t think there&#039;s anything cult-ish about Holosync itself,  but like you, I&#039;m sometimes concerned about the other controversial products/systems Bill Harris cross-promotes (which in the past included the fellow who ran the lethal sweat lodge in Arizona. Ouch.)   But as long as you&#039;re just using the product,  and  you recognize that Harris is (bottom line) a marketer, and not an enlightened-guru-advisor whose every recommendations should be followed, I&#039;d think you&#039;d be ok ;)

Zoning out and even falling asleep is a common experience with brainwave entrainment at low frequencies, just as it is with meditation.  So I wouldn&#039;t worry on that count, either.    

I&#039;d think it&#039;s unlikely that your dreams are being blocked, and more likely that the change in your sleeping hours or the way you&#039;re waking up now is keeping you from remembering them.  If you&#039;re using entrainment right after waking up, perhaps you&#039;re training your brain to shift into meditative mode upon waking up, rather than following your old patterns which allowed you the time and mind-set to recall the dreams --  wouldn&#039;t it be interesting to know the brainwave frequency that goes on during that half awake period that helps us remember our dreams?  

As for suppressing emotions, that&#039;s a difficult one, but I suppose it&#039;s possible.  Long term meditation practices change the brain in ways that seem to stabilize emotions, and maybe something similar happens through long term exposure to certain entrainment frequencies.    It might be worth asking for input from the Centerpoint forums,  and/or  the TransparentCorp community (many of whom also have used Holosync. Some like it, some dont).  Just keep in mind that while there are some knowledgeable and science-based people contributing there,  there&#039;s lots of folks who are very woo-woo, as well. 

For anyone trying to understand the effects of Holosync,  it&#039;s important to realize that it is just brainwave entrainment to specific frequencies, and learning more about entrainment and brainwave frequencies will reveal a lot about what to expect from Holosync.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin, </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything cult-ish about Holosync itself,  but like you, I&#8217;m sometimes concerned about the other controversial products/systems Bill Harris cross-promotes (which in the past included the fellow who ran the lethal sweat lodge in Arizona. Ouch.)   But as long as you&#8217;re just using the product,  and  you recognize that Harris is (bottom line) a marketer, and not an enlightened-guru-advisor whose every recommendations should be followed, I&#8217;d think you&#8217;d be ok <img src='http://www.mindtweaks.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Zoning out and even falling asleep is a common experience with brainwave entrainment at low frequencies, just as it is with meditation.  So I wouldn&#8217;t worry on that count, either.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;d think it&#8217;s unlikely that your dreams are being blocked, and more likely that the change in your sleeping hours or the way you&#8217;re waking up now is keeping you from remembering them.  If you&#8217;re using entrainment right after waking up, perhaps you&#8217;re training your brain to shift into meditative mode upon waking up, rather than following your old patterns which allowed you the time and mind-set to recall the dreams &#8212;  wouldn&#8217;t it be interesting to know the brainwave frequency that goes on during that half awake period that helps us remember our dreams?  </p>
<p>As for suppressing emotions, that&#8217;s a difficult one, but I suppose it&#8217;s possible.  Long term meditation practices change the brain in ways that seem to stabilize emotions, and maybe something similar happens through long term exposure to certain entrainment frequencies.    It might be worth asking for input from the Centerpoint forums,  and/or  the TransparentCorp community (many of whom also have used Holosync. Some like it, some dont).  Just keep in mind that while there are some knowledgeable and science-based people contributing there,  there&#8217;s lots of folks who are very woo-woo, as well. </p>
<p>For anyone trying to understand the effects of Holosync,  it&#8217;s important to realize that it is just brainwave entrainment to specific frequencies, and learning more about entrainment and brainwave frequencies will reveal a lot about what to expect from Holosync.</p>
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